A thread for Andymonk

[Gurdur]

The mandala is a very well-known figure in human culture; Carl Jung wrote much about it. It is of so much importance to human history, symbolism and psychology because it reflects something very deep in the human psyche; very often it becomes of great importance to an emotionally ill person, since the mandala figure is deeply symbolic of trying to put together and to understand the shattered sense of self.

I'm opening this thread for Andymonk to explain whatever he wanted to explain here about his flower symbol, one which is very typical indeed of the mandala figure; I'm well aware that there are problems with that, but there are times when indulgence is no big cost.

[Puck]

ACK, I gotta go out of town....bummer. Don't have time.....

[andymonk]

Originally Posted by Gurdur

The mandala is a very well-known figure in human culture; Carl Jung wrote much about it. It is of so much importance to human history, symbolism and psychology because it reflects something very deep in the human psyche; very often it becomes of great importance to an emotionally ill person, since the mandala figure is deeply symbolic of trying to put together and to understand the shattered sense of self.

I'm opening this thread for Andymonk to explain whatever he wanted to explain here about his flower symbol, one which is very typical indeed of the mandala figure; I'm well aware that there are problems with that, but there are times when indulgence is no big cost.

I believe,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness. The universal consciousness we were all a part of before we entered this material world. The original fol(found in "the osireon" at abydos in egypt(pic1+2)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional(pic3). If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes,it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. 4love and light 2all x The complete fol is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion. The complete fol contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life(pic4). The complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids(pic5+6). Not just the building blocks of life,but the building blocks of creation its self

[Master Taran]

It's great, if you can see stereoscopically. I for one do not have that capability.

[Goldie]

DUDE!
You are having TOO MUCH FUN with your spirograph!
I used to love mine, too!

[lucky mud]

I like the spinning cube thing.

[andymonk]

Originally Posted by Goldie

DUDE!
You are having TOO MUCH FUN with your spirograph!
I used to love mine, too!

The complete ancient flower of life is more than a spirograph image. The incomplete fol is found all over the ancient world. The oldest and original is found on several pillars within "the osireion" at abydos in egypt. The osireion(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. To this day,no egyptologists or archaeologists can explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. Any opinions? http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/gar.../osireion.html

[Goldie]

Originally Posted by andymonk

The complete ancient flower of life is more than a spirograph image. The incomplete fol is found all over the ancient world. The oldest and original is found on several pillars within "the osireion" at abydos in egypt. The osireion(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. To this day,no egyptologists or archaeologists can explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. Any opinions? http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/gar.../osireion.html

Please, chill. I was just joking. SHEESH!
I think it looks pretty cool and I can do all of the eye tricks with it, and... I really like old, ancient drawings. I find it all very interesting. But, I don't see it as the end-all, be-all, key to the universe or anything.
They weren't dumb, back then, you know. I would guess that some mathematically minded individual put it there. Way cool...but...so?

[Gurdur]

Originally Posted by andymonk

The complete ancient flower of life is more than a spirograph image.

No offence, but you'll just have to live with people disagreeing with you, Andymonk.

[andymonk]

Originally Posted by Gurdur

No offence, but you'll just have to live with people disagreeing with you, Andymonk.

No offence taken and i,m happy to be criticised and disagreed with

To me it's just weird symbol from ancient days. Sorry but you are dealing with skeptics here. I'm much more open-minded than most atheists when it comes to mysticism but i'm realistic enough to know that chances are that this means nothing in the scheme of life.

It reminds me of a show I watched a few weeks back about Mayans and thier predictions for the future. It all sounded very cool and a person could easily be suckered into believing that the world will end in December of 2012. In the end though, I'm quite confindent that it's all a bunch of hooey.

Sorry Andy but that is my opinion.

[Puck]

Sorry andymonk. People have been making pictures since our beginning. We make squares when we are children, and build from there. It doesn't matter how detailed they become, they are just drawings. Nice drawings, but there are no secrets within them. The human mind sometimes seeks secrets where there are none. We are prone to such things it seems.

It seems you are convinced you have found some such special secret and wish to share it with others so they can be happy, too, or you wish to feel special because you've found something you think is terribly special. It really is just a drawing, and it matters not one whit what anyone tries to attribute to it, it won't change the facts.

Our brains seek out what they want to find. As for me, I have learned that we don't need some outside 'meaning' to life. Life just is, and it's wonderful, and complicated, and messy and should be well balanced.

If thinking you have found something wonderful and special in a drawing makes your life better, then I say think it all you want. But don't expect me to attribute some mystical hoo-ha to a drawing. I like my feet planted firmly in reality.

[lucky mud]

Isn't the yen yan symbol older?
Puck, finding paterns in random forms is hard wired in our brains. So it goes.

[lucky mud]

Side note: I'm a Senior Member! WOO HOO!

[Master Taran]

Originally Posted by lucky mud

Isn't the yen yan symbol older?
Puck, finding paterns in random forms is hard wired in our brains. So it goes.

The Ying Yang symbol is some where around 3500bc. in age. Even older than this one.

[lucky mud]

Master Taran, Andymonk gives us no dates, so do you know if the Yen Yan is older than the flower thing?

[Master Taran]

aYup!

[Pyrogenesis]

It's "yin and yang" and the other is a form of triskelion.

[Gurdur]

Originally Posted by Pyrogenesis

... a form of triskelion.

"Fylfot" is kinda cooler a name.

[Pyrogenesis]

"Fylfot" is kinda cooler a name.

It is, only the swastika has four and the triskele three "arms". ;)

[andymonk]

Originally Posted by lucky mud

Master Taran, Andymonk gives us no dates, so do you know if the Yen Yan is older than the flower thing?

So far,no egyptologists or archaeologists can or will give a date for the flower of life.

[andymonk]

Originally Posted by Master Taran

If you contemplate the complete flower you will see that it contains the ying yang and the triskele. The complete ancient flower of life is the archetypal symbol,the template.

[andymonk]

The triskele is taken from the first three interlocking rings of the flower of life. I think that makes the flower older.

[Master Taran]

Originally Posted by andymonk

I would be greatful if someone could suggest the best way of posting my discovery.

Your discovery? You Sir only just discovered it on the internet. You have never given credit to the person or persons that did do the real discovering of the object.

You make wildly broad statements as to how this is the "be all, end all" for the world, but yet you give no details at all. And as for the different patterns you see in this alleged flower, the only reason you see them is because you were told that they were there by someone else.

You have not given here or anywhere else on the internet any personal thoughts that you have. All you have done is give the same thoughts over and over. When challenged as to details, you give none.

This is going to be My last post in this thread, unless you bring something else to the table other than the original serving.

[andymonk]

Originally Posted by Master Taran

Your discovery? You Sir only just discovered it on the internet. You have never given credit to the person or persons that did do the real discovering of the object.

You make wildly broad statements as to how this is the "be all, end all" for the world, but yet you give no details at all. And as for the different patterns you see in this alleged flower, the only reason you see them is because you were told that they were there by someone else.

You have not given here or anywhere else on the internet any personal thoughts that you have. All you have done is give the same thoughts over and over. When challenged as to details, you give none.

This is going to be My last post in this thread, unless you bring something else to the table other than the original serving.

I discovered this alone. I,ve been using a computer and the internet for about 6months. All i,m trying to do is get this information out. I discovered and draw the complete flower so there is no one to credit. I,m happy to answer any questions,if i can. I am a self educated working class guy who wishes he had stuck in at school. I dont have the words to discribe this as i would like. I,m as supprised as anyone that i,ve discovered this. If you really think that i got this from the internet,why dont you look and see. You will not see the complete flower anywhere,unless i,ve put it there. You people here are educated,so why dont you take the flower and find its true potential. I give this knowledge freely and unconditionally with love. I want and expect nothing in return. If you look at my blog,you will see that it is a very poor attempt at trying to explain my theory. . peace. http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogspot.com/