Ever wondered why Victorian ladies swooned?

Puck · 23-Mar-2007, 01:13 PM (13:13)

Yup. Well, that, and the Laudnum. All that opium can't be good for anyone, let alone when you've strangled your guts.

verte · 23-Mar-2007, 02:26 PM (14:26)

And their clothing averaged about 30-40 lbs., what with all the petticoats and chemises and drawers and under-petticoats and so on.

Who said we were the weaker sex?

Bud · 23-Mar-2007, 02:28 PM (14:28)

I'll never describe a woman as having an hourglass figure again.Not that I can remember doing so in the past, but, definitely not in the future. Not after seeing that. THAT is an hourglass.

Gurdur · 23-Mar-2007, 02:33 PM (14:33)

Prussian generals often wore corsets too.

verte · 23-Mar-2007, 02:35 PM (14:35)

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Originally Posted by Gurdur

Prussian generals often wore corsets too.

I'm going to remember that, next time someone quotes that tired old "vanity, thy name is woman" at me.

Gurdur · 23-Mar-2007, 02:39 PM (14:39)

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Originally Posted by verte

I'm going to remember that, next time someone quotes that tired old "vanity, thy name is woman" at me.

Vanity, thy name can also be General Hindenburg.

No joke, he wore a corset. So did others then.

verte · 23-Mar-2007, 02:41 PM (14:41)

Ha! Gurdur, you just made my day.

Gurdur · 23-Mar-2007, 02:49 PM (14:49)

Hmmmmmm. The Wikipedia article on Max Hoffmann leaves out a bit (in relation to the Battle of Tannenberg that made Hindenburg's reputation).

Wikipedia says only:

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In his post-war memoirs, Hoffmann was critical of the German High Command including Hindenburg and Ludendorff. Hoffmann was resentful that his two superiors had received the credit for the victories of Tannenberg and the Masurian Lakes when it was really his strategy that allowed the victories to occur.

What they leave out is that when Hoffmann used to take distinguished visitors on sightseeing tours around the battlefield many times afterwards, he had a stock line that he always used to tell them:

"Here is the bed that General Hindenburg slept on before the battle. Here is the bed that General Hindenburg slept on after the battle.

And here is the bed that General Hindenburg slept on during the battle."

verte · 23-Mar-2007, 02:51 PM (14:51)

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Originally Posted by Gurdur

And here is the bed that General Hindenburg slept on during the battle."

OUCH. Nicely done.

Gurdur · 23-Mar-2007, 03:05 PM (15:05)

To explain this next bit; Uhlans were the German cavalry, still used and named as such in WW1.

From here:

A corset girds with great élan
The waist of every proud Uhlan;
So that when he in battle stands,
His heart won’t fall into his pants.

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verte · 23-Mar-2007, 03:16 PM (15:16)

According to that link (good link, btw), that was chanted during this episode....

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On the occasion of the 300th anniversary of Luther’s Reformation, 500 students of 12 Pan-Germanic fraternities congregated at the Wartburg in Thuringia, a castle of great historical significance, and burned several hated objects: among them was a corset ...a man’s Schnürleib. 9

I am fighting the urge to make a bad bra-burning joke.

Pyrogenesis · 23-Mar-2007, 04:52 PM (16:52)

Well, it should be noted that on that particular picture, her clothes and the fact that she had large breasts exaggerate the tininess of the waist. Other pictures of her look a bit more "normal"... but not much.

retrow · 23-Mar-2007, 05:18 PM (17:18)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurdur

Prussian generals often wore corsets too.

You talking about Prussian generals? Do you know how the dude who was responsible for the KJV Bible dressed up?

You gotta check out his other pictures in plume hats. By today's standard he would be the best dressed drag queen at pride fests. We are not even going into the French monarchy yet.

Moosey · 23-Mar-2007, 05:44 PM (17:44)

Heh I think that top picture of her looks even 'worse' (ie more waisted) than the original one! I wonder how she breathed? Prolly with very shallow, frequent breaths I guess.

MJK · 23-Mar-2007, 06:08 PM (18:08)

There are still people who tightlace. They're just weird. ;)

Moosey · 23-Mar-2007, 06:25 PM (18:25)

There's a shop near me that sells corsets for the rather ambitious sum of 99 pounds.. made to measure. I presume that people only buy them for things like weddings though.

Garnet · 23-Mar-2007, 08:01 PM (20:01)

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Originally Posted by Moosey

There's a shop near me that sells corsets for the rather ambitious sum of 99 pounds.. made to measure. I presume that people only buy them for things like weddings though.

Um...that would be a bit naive.

Pyrogenesis · 24-Mar-2007, 09:21 AM (09:21)

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Um...that would be a bit naive.

Teehee. Zing!

Puck · 24-Mar-2007, 02:03 PM (14:03)

Gads, I'm glad I like my body as it is. I may bitch and moan that things aren't like they used to be, but I'd hate to not like me so much that I thought I needed to torture my poor tummy into some contortion like that.

Smilin · 24-Mar-2007, 06:51 PM (18:51)

Quote:

Originally Posted by retrow

You talking about Prussian generals? Do you know how the dude who was responsible for the KJV Bible dressed up?

You gotta check out his other pictures in plume hats. By today's standard he would be the best dressed drag queen at pride fests. We are not even going into the French monarchy yet.

Gawd dayyummm.....

That's the "man" that brought us the Bible named after him....

I'm sending this to some people I know who SWEAR by the KJV as being the "true word of God".

I'm guessing since "man" was "created in his image", it can truly be said that we were created to dress like fairies...

Thanks for the laugh retrow...I know what I'm gonna dress up as this next Halloween....

Pyrogenesis · 24-Mar-2007, 07:34 PM (19:34)

OMG look people dressed differently in the past LOL!

Luckily, nowadays people look normal as they should always have, mullets and sagging pants and all.

Smilin · 24-Mar-2007, 07:37 PM (19:37)

LMAO, Pyro....

I really need to find that picture of me when I shaved my head for kicks and grins during my first military deployment....

LOL.....memories...LOL

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Gurdur Cuddly Wombat Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adminning Posts: 17,478	To explain this next bit; Uhlans were the German cavalry, still used and named as such in WW1. From here: A corset girds with great élan The waist of every proud Uhlan; So that when he in battle stands, His heart won’t fall into his pants. . Last edited by Gurdur : 24-Mar-2007 at 04:29 AM (04:29).

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Pyrogenesis Gender-appropriate spankytoy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Estonia Posts: 2,979	Well, it should be noted that on that particular picture, her clothes and the fact that she had large breasts exaggerate the tininess of the waist. Other pictures of her look a bit more "normal"... but not much.
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Gurdur Cuddly Wombat Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adminning Posts: 17,478	Prussian generals often wore corsets too.

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Moosey a very pink lush Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,072	Heh I think that top picture of her looks even 'worse' (ie more waisted) than the original one! I wonder how she breathed? Prolly with very shallow, frequent breaths I guess.

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MJK Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 24	There are still people who tightlace. They're just weird. ;)
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23-Mar-2007, 06:25 PM (18:25)	#17
Moosey a very pink lush Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,072	There's a shop near me that sells corsets for the rather ambitious sum of 99 pounds.. made to measure. I presume that people only buy them for things like weddings though.

24-Mar-2007, 02:03 PM (14:03)	#20
Puck Pouting Hummingbird of Pook's Hill Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: A Middle Aged Body Posts: 4,852	Gads, I'm glad I like my body as it is. I may bitch and moan that things aren't like they used to be, but I'd hate to not like me so much that I thought I needed to torture my poor tummy into some contortion like that.

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Pyrogenesis Gender-appropriate spankytoy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Estonia Posts: 2,979	OMG look people dressed differently in the past LOL! Luckily, nowadays people look normal as they should always have, mullets and sagging pants and all.

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Smilin Would-be pevert, but still a lot of catching up with Master Taran to do yet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,648	LMAO, Pyro.... I really need to find that picture of me when I shaved my head for kicks and grins during my first military deployment.... LOL.....memories...LOL

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